You should publish the suggestions as you remember them, if you didn’t keep a copy of it. I got up and couldn’t stop muttering to myself in shock and disbelief. You know. Or the Reed Smoot hearings… Finally, Philip shares the untold story of […]. Following an ancient English limitation, Illinois law then limited a Church trustee to holding no more than 10 acres of land, but Joseph’s 1842 conveyances in trust involved about 4,000 acres, plus 312 town lots. The high degree of correspondence (or “intertexuality”) between the KJV and BofM simply can’t be explained in any other way. But Emma had a clear legal right under the law of Illinois. If there was no other voice under heaven ever to be heard in this cause, gladly would I stand alone, and proudly spend my latest breath in defense of an oppressed American citizen.[19]. My wife came in part way through and started to really get engaged around that section. May have a Harvard or Yale PhD, For well over a century Jurisdiction then transferred to the federal court in Springfield, Illinois. Not every Mormon man, of course not, just thousands of them. After dinner they drive to a night club and have a few drinks and dancing. ... etc. I think you sound just like Elliot Gould. A lot of the knowledge I got about the movements come from these two sources: https://stickynotespodcast.libsyn.com/mahler-symphony-no-2-part-1 and https://www.modestosymphony.org/mahler-symphony-no-2-program-notes. I’d love it if you were to share it on your podcast! The Inaugural Episode of Mormonism Live kicks off tackling FairMormon’s new video series name “This Is The Show” that is intended for a younger audience. Thank you, so much and God Bless you! A lot of people love the work you’re doing: There’s even speculation Joseph and his family had access to some hallucinogenic stuff on the side too, but its harder to prove that, though really, once you find out about Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, its hard to reconcile what they did and said with what the current Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches. YouTube Videos. Bargain basement classical music. We are both returned missionaries, and we were talking the other day about preach my gospel, and how manipulative it teaches missionaries to be. This completed our research of that important subject and significantly enhanced the accuracy of our account of the testimony at the trial. A journalist would be permitted to quote from a political speech’s text without the politician’s permission. I was angry that the church refused to own up to Joseph’s mistakes and they kept throwing the women he married under the bus. So enjoyed the Ritner interview on the Book of Abraham that I listened to the earlier podcast you did on the same subject with Bill Reel. We see the diverging pathways in the woods, but generally the paths look about the same. Now, two years later, with these fairly dramatic changes being rolled out by the Church on a nearly continuous basis, my friend and I recently had dinner and recalled the details of the report we delivered, and realized that while not everything we suggested has been addressed, every change that has been announced so far was represented in some fashion on our list of suggested changes or actions. Huge thumbs up, guys. [3] In research for that article I learned that modern criticism of the action of the Nauvoo City Council has been based on the principle of freedom of speech and press embodied in the 14th amendment of the United States Constitution. I’m from Mexico and I enjoy everything you say in these podcasts. Jesus of Gnatzareth is what I meant to type. He has also become a fan of your podcast – and after listening to your most recent podcast where you mention President Stout…thinks he might have served in Japan with you. I’m listening to your podcast. Some who participated in Joseph’s hearings later became nationally prominent. Like StillAnon, I found RFM in my quest to understand Mormons and Mormonism. Ryan McKnight is an anti-Mormon activist prominent on anti-Mormon sites like reddit … Be cautious. Very rarely in the history of the Earth has a society had equality between the sexes. I’m on your side. I appreciate the time, research and thought that goes into each episode. The Constitution was hanging, and no Mormon on a white horse showed up (n/t) 17 : anybody: 01/07/2021 09:05AM: Could DJT be the Anti-Christ of Revelations? A free press is fundamental to a democratic society. Our discoveries offered important insights into the strained relations between Emma and Brigham Young. In fairness and equity, these properties belonged to the Church when Joseph died. Thanks for all your awesome words of wisdom keep up your great work. Instead, I will mention the prominent participants and circumstances in these three hearings, sometimes with my own summaries and sometimes quoting what I said in Nauvoo. And RFM, the “Are You Man Enough” selection by the Four Tops?…Dayum. He was only thirty-eight and a half when he was murdered. A close friend of mine in Utah Valley who has made a lot of money and who subsequently developed a relationship with a number of Apostles and other GA’s was given a “special calling” along with several other trusted members in Utah, under the direction of Elder Ballard via the local Area Authtority. At national, regional and local level, it is the public’s watchdog, activist and guardian as well as educator, entertainer and contemporary chronicler. What could the federal government do about state laws or actions against persecuted persons? Anyway, it’s kinda stupid, but I’d love if there was an alternate version! Thank you for helping me escape gravitational fields. To contact a specific podcast host or to contact the podcast generally please email MormonDiscussionsPodcasts AT gmail DOT com Fourth, after a succession of court proceedings covering nearly a decade (because of political reasons not involving the Latter-day Saints, who had long since departed for the West), a federal judge issued a lengthy decree, which we found and studied. I admittedly am not LDS (rejected it after being approached by LDS guy #1, and engaging with him for about 2 years – infinite regression of gods was the death knell…). It was “anti-mormon” after all. A few years ago, I made a foray onto a message board for individuals who have left the Church. I remember how I first found you. I tried to create a login for your site, i guess i figured i needed to create one to post comments but the reCAPTCHA for your site isn’t working. You pulled me out of a hall of mirrors and illusions. As a writer [he said], I find that feat absolutely incredible. It had to be restrained because I wasn’t allowed to get mad at the leaders of the church. It’s not so lonely these days with “Mindy”, John, RFM, et. : 003: Mormonism’s Quest for Acceptance, Radio Free Mormon: 209: Christians v. Pharisees, Radio Free Mormon: 208: Escape from Polygamy Mountain, Part 1, Mormonism LIVE! And wish he would have translated all the Egyptian characters on facsimile 2 that Joseph said he wasn’t allowed to translate at this time but would be given in the temple. Perry slaps his fist down on the table and shouts DAMN IT Paul always the element of doubt. Church leaders got rid of the Oath of Obedience for the women because the bullies among the Mormon men were using it for all sorts of Unrighteous Dominion, such as incest, anal sex, all sorts of things. As you know, Mormonism is all about new names! Your pun, Jesus of Gnaturus made me laugh, but mostly I wanted to let you know that I find myself thinking in similar ways to your off-the-wall theory about the gnat being a gnat savior that died and was resurrected. The Mormon Curtain is an Ex-Mormon Blog containing Articles collected from News, Blogs, Ex-Mormon Communities and Forums - providing the very best posts and articles therein. 5. [13] The Worlds of Joseph Smith, 153, 157. I wasn’t sure if I should listen to it. I’ve been listening to a number of these podcasts (from the beginning)…well done! Under the “fair use” defense, however, another author may make limited use of the original author’s work without asking permission. I came, I saw, I was fascinated and charmed, I stayed off and on. At this point my faith was tenuous at best. I couldn’t talk about any of these things openly. Only ONE mother in the equation. An apologist Egyptologist A book reviewer would be permitted to quote passages from a book in a newspaper column, for example, as part of an examination of the book. A justice of that court phoned me to ask if the Church would assist them in looking into Joseph Smith’s legal cases in Illinois. Have you considered doing an episode where you critique your arguments in defense of the BOM? I rewrote the song and thought that you might enjoy the lyrics. That was astonishingly similar to the Nauvoo City Council’s suppression of the Nauvoo Expositor. By comparison, if we assume the historicity of the Book of Mormon: An art historian would be able to use an image of a painting in an academic article that analyzes the painting. This omission was typical in trials of that period. Thank you for what you’re doing to help me de-program the brain washing I developed over 47 years in the TSCC. I was not getting truthful answers from Mormons and Mormon sites, and voila, RFM. Hello RFM, and greetings from Boston. I mean, after you have been told your whole life in the church that you were flying when actually you were chained in a cage? Awesome, Awesome, Awesome. Having no reason or special object to search that pile, I nevertheless followed the impression. Broadcasting behind Enemy lines, Radio Free Mormon tackles the difficult subjects in Mormonism like no one else. : 006: LDS Handbook Changes Part 2, Radio Free Mormon: 211: Escape from Polygamy Mountain Part 2, Mormonism LIVE ! Mitt and I and every other Mormon kid in the 1950s heard the "White Horse" prophecy, which says the Constitution will be "hanging by a thread," and a Mormon will save it. To the light that no eye has penetrated Former CES Director Philip McLemore pulls back the curtain to give us a look behind the scenes at what really goes on in the Church Educational System. The law in 1844, including interpretation of state constitutional guarantees of a free press, offered considerable support for what Nauvoo had done. Here was everything but a record of the testimony at that trial. Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Fortunately, I gave the court clerks my University of Chicago Law School business card and did not tell them I was a Latter-day Saint. Subject to some general limitations discussed later in this article, the following types of uses are usually deemed fair uses: Criticism and commentary: for example, quoting or excerpting a work in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment. Hi RFM, how about some content about the early Utah church, Brigham’s rule, Mountain Meadows etc. With wings that I won for myself The effect on boosting the page ranks of RFM (through quite legitimate means) would be worthwhile! There was even the written verdict of not guilty. I always have trouble arguing with somebody who calls me brilliant. Like many members of The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-Day Saints (LDS) McCue has a large family. These were more feelings rather than conscious thoughts. At any rate, the purpose of the calling was to specifically address the current and growing epidemic of young people going inactive or outright leaving the church. He is an innocent and unoffending man.[20]. A man and a woman have different roles in the Plan of Happiness. Basic question might be, Are Plural Sealings Still Being Performed in the Temple? Professor Robert V. Remini, a University of Illinois historian, who also served as the U.S. Congressional Historian, gave this admiring description. Its sentiments are good, but it provides no means of enforcing them.[17]. The lesson I drew from this scholarly research and publication has made me a life-long opponent of the technique of presentism—relying on current perspectives and culture to criticize official or personal actions in the past. Now I have been telling everyone about my true belief and I no longer feel constrained. [6] Throughout our research and writing, Hill and I were surprised that historians had not preceded us in finding the original records and writing about this important event in Church history. Subscribe to Stitcher Feed I remember reading over that section of the Doctrine and Covenants and asking myself, “How could God have let his chosen men become so bankrupt?” I remember feeling something else. But I always appreciated his demeanor, which I hear in your analysis and posture. Most important, we discovered why, after his death, the Church received nothing from the Church’s extensive property holdings in Nauvoo. I have been a good Mormon for the past nine years. The Oaks/Bentley article on Joseph Smith’s bankruptcy proceeding, published in the BYU Law Review of 1976,[7] is 50 pages in length—too long to attempt to summarize here. So when Perry takes his next schedule business trip Paul does some snooping. Like StillAnon, I found RFM in my quest to understand Mormons and Mormonism. Of current interest is that Carthage Conspiracy is still in print more than 45 years after it was published by the University of Illinois Press. After citing the criticism, Mormon Apologists immediately follow up with evidence of Alma’s use as a Male name in the ancient eastern world. This definition is probably the most succinct descriptor of Joseph Smith’s ministry, LDS Church history, Church teachings, and Church policies that I have ever read. I suggested that he look into the bankruptcy proceeding. RFM, RFM was interviewed by John Larsen ten years ago on his epic podcast, “Mormon Expression.” In commemoration of that historic event, I am pleased to post that memorable interview (with permission) here at Radio Free Mormon! [15] Millennial Star 8 (vol. That is to say, there is not ONE “She”. It tells me several things: 1. His number is: (801) 787-2141. She had suffered much deprivation during her marriage and was now left a widow with children to raise. I assume you keep plenty busy . Curious, I examined the briefs and learned that the facts of this famous case involved the suppression of a scurrilous newspaper by government action. This result was required by an Illinois law that should have been known by the lawyers who advised these transactions. Did Jesus and the father actually come to Joseph Or was it a vision and does it matter. background-color: rgba(0,0,0,0.5); Opinion now seems to be split, Some say he meant real translation His advocacy included this conclusion: I do not think the defendant ought under any circumstances to be delivered up to Missouri. I appreciate your insight. I didn’t really understand what this was all coming to. Could you go to my Facebook page and send me a PM and let me know? In contrast, Emma Smith succeeded to the largest proportion of what had been Church property. Significantly it falls far short of explaining how Joseph produced this central witness of his prophetic ministry. RFM, thank you for your analyses on a variety of topics. If admin over there wants to continue acting like the Mormon thought police that they say they despise, then that is up to them. Always remember that every single one of us is full of shit. Prepare yourself to live! This video does everything it can to avoid dealing with the actual issues related to this book of scripture! I didn’t know he was a treasure digger. You gave me the wonderful opportunity of trying out a new name. 703.801.0258. [email protected]. We most likely went to the same sacrament meetings a couple times and the big ones, the Tokyo Temple dedication and the area conference in the Budokan in October of 1980. Now there are myriad discussion boards and groups on Reddit, Facebook, places like postmormon.org, and a whole host of blogs in Main Street Plaza's Outerblogness. I finally got around to monthly support thanks to your recent podcast. I went from the depths of despair to absolute depression. Some say it was another Smith scam Here are some examples of what I was prompted to say about the Prophet’s personal qualities: One of [Joseph’s] personal gifts is evidenced by the love and loyalty of the remarkable people who followed him. Similarly here, I will avoid reviewing details known to this knowledgeable audience. 3. We only have limited vision about where that path may take us. #social .stitcher{ You sounded like someone I’d listened to, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. In 1967, Joseph I. Bentley, a brilliant law student at The University of Chicago Law School, registered for individual research under my direction. At that time I knew I had to get out of the room. An English teacher would be permitted to copy a few pages of a book to show to the class as part of a lesson plan. Sue was a happily married TBM until her husband became converted to the fundamentalist practice of plural marriage, converted Sue after a year-long emotionally abusive indoctrination, and began taking new wives. I hope that sometime I can meet you in person. Nothing we found cast any doubt on the integrity of the Prophet Joseph Smith. ! The church is willing to listen to and adopt “bottom up” change, even if it is not necessarily a publicly acknowledged process. The events of the last week or so, regarding RFM, are unbelievable and disgraceful!! I saw an episode on one of my favorite podcasts about Joseph Smith and the Mormon church. That suppression led directly to the arrest and murder of Joseph Smith and is therefore an extremely significant event in his life. Are paid by the Church, Have you seen this BYU MA on Facsimile 3 https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/etd/7598/. I appreciate the reverence you give all positions and yet call out the bulls**t. Your recent work with Dr. Ritter was amazing, and I very much like your attitude and intellect. Listener and supporter here, although we’ve never met, and this is my first correspondence. We are around the same age, and share common background and interest. All I can say is THANKS. Smith put pieces of papyri together Administrators were appointed to carry out that law, but they determined that the total claims of Joseph’s creditors were about three times greater than the value of the property he owned, so Emma and the children would receive nothing. I can only imagine the kind of discussions that go around the room when the MEN are deciding exactly how to phrase these things and what the implications might mean if they go one way or the other. The other parts are also very interesting but I don’t think you want to keep listening to me rambling about music and you should interpret them the way you feel is right for you. How much equality did the Lawrence sisters (aged 16 and 18) have or did Helen Kimball (aged 14) have when Joseph Smith told them that the Lord wanted them to “marry” him or they’d be damned and/or destroyed???? I started to have questions about tithing about 2 years ago, found a way to make peace with those questions and shelved them. In my recent faith crisis, it is so refreshing to hear simple plain truths instead of apologetic mishmash. I just listened to all 7 parts of your interview on Mormon Stories. They were apostles of God after all. You are super well-spoken and researched. This may be a dumb question. The Barker Brothers’ Projects . She related to RFM’s comments about thinking you’re in the deep end of the pool when you’re actually in the shallow end, you’re speaking truth! According to the writer of the thesis it was the printers fault. I can relate to this so much as I look back at the memories I’ve formed with my congregation but I also know that those are in the past. Couldn’t have picked a more perfect closing hymn. Radio Free Mormon: 211: Escape from Polygamy Mountain Part 2 Jan. 8, 2021 Join Sue as she tells the rest of her harrowing tale; how she escaped from the polygamy compound in Mexico, made her way back to the United States, and finally made her way back into the good graces of the LDS Church. I also found myself bothered by the culture of restriction that the church pressed onto its members. Former Mormon bishop explains the collapse of his faith News Summary/June 2004 Calgary, Canada --Tax lawyer Bob McCue was once a Mormon Bishop, but now he's an apostate. There was no reason to be afraid of criticizing Nelson. If lived near each other I think we would be good friends. I had a great time and I hope you did, too! Part 1. I love some classical music myself. It is definitely a lot of information boiled down into a thirty-minute episode! I remember when you criticized Nelson, I alternated between flinching in fear to cackling maniacally as I realized how dishonestly he had tried to defend the November policy and its rollback. Spoiler Alert: yes, they are still being performed. Unless the list was delivered into the hands of Jesus to get the final stamp of approval, policy and doctrine come from a source that may be different than what we have been taught. Pretty much every time the word “vision” is used, that’s a sign. . That's their right. ! There I was led to a printed catalog of the contents of the Wilford C. Wood Museum, prepared by Professor LaMar Berrett and sent to me over a year earlier. His unique sense of humor, his knowledge of Mormonism, his displaying of the data. The press provides the platform for a multiplicity of voices to be heard. Smith was no dummy. That were translated by Prophet Joe Smith I’ve encouraged everyone who is traveling this bumpy road to listen in. I even assumed that the murderers were punished with horrible deaths such as those recited in the popular book, The Fate of the Persecutors of Joseph Smith. I’ve sent it to some of my friends to listen to as well. your episode 190 adam clark show The Inaugural Episode of Mormonism Live kicks off tackling FairMormon’s new video series name “This Is The Show” that is intended for a younger audience. Later he calls a cab and they begin kissing in the back seat. He’s well researched, entertaining, and uses his attorney skills to present a logical argument with razor sharp precision. The leaders of the church are looking at the numbers and are running a little scared. kicks off tackling FairMormon’s new video series titled, “This Is The Show” (T.I.T.S.). The Radio Free Mormon podcast took on the First Vision in a recent episode. I really did enjoy the outro song. It was some serious dismissal on his part of the question that this woman had. Even though Elder Ballard recently said he had no idea where the missionaries got that idea . Then she’d sparkle with pride that I thought honesty was a more important “Mormon” value than what our neighbors in the Upper Snake River Valley of Idaho might be thinking. God was gone. Second, Joseph Smith died without a will. Addie Andrews is the porn star who used to be a Mormon missionary. . . He had better been sent to the gallows. The total value of Joseph’s properties—mostly what was brought back into his estate by the federal decree—was $11,148. I would highly recommend listening to the symphony. You pose that “Heavenly Mother” is only included by “implication” when it reads, “I am a beloved daughter with Heavenly Parents.” I don’t even think SHE is implied. I felt like I was trapped in an invisible cage and it felt as if I couldn’t breathe. I came, I saw, I was fascinated and charmed, I stayed off and on. Will help the Church gaslight, They’ll claim Smith had unknown knowledge in any case, Thanks again for all you do to shine a light in the darkness. The court valued Emma’s dower claim (a life interest in one-third of all Joseph’s real estate) at one-sixth of all the cash in the estate. Nonprofit educational uses: for example, when teachers photocopy limited portions of written works for classroom use. The judge in his first extradition hearing was young Stephen A. Douglas, just appointed to the Illinois Supreme Court. al., at our fingertips. For your shorter ones (2:15 or less) the music wakes me up, but the longer ones don’t even get noticed when I start at the beginning. In his defense of Joseph, Browning told the judge about the sacrifices and horrors of the Later-day Saints’ expulsion from Missouri. As I have looked at this circumstance, I have concluded that the different positions of Emma and Brigham on who should own the properties that Joseph sought to convey to the Church in 1842 can be summarized as follows. At any rate, thank you. . If apologist Egyptologists I hope that I can be a friend to you as you’ve been a friend to me through these dark times. During a rest break, my attention was drawn to the library’s top shelf, which stored legal briefs that firm filed in the famous 1931 case of Near v. Minnesota. If those efforts had been legally successful, they would have prevented the tragic condition of the Church’s legal affairs after Joseph’s death. I will be listening to all 5 sessions starting tomorrow – and will be taking notes. I have listened to EVERY one of your broadcasts! […]. As a bonus, we also get to hear about the strange happenings on his mission to Brazil in the early 70s. Bill presented his case beautifully. https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/cl7wsu/elder_oaks_none_of_the_brethren_have_seen_god/. Here occurred another of many miracles we experienced in our research. Please join me and Radio Free Mormon on Friday, January 15, 2021 at ... 8am Utah time for (tomorrow morning) a discussion of “Laura A. Gaddy vs. the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” – a class action lawsuit currently before the United States District Court for the District of Utah, with Robert J. Shelby as the Presiding Judge. NEVER MIND THE DETAILS OF EITHER NARRATIVE! background-repeat: no-repeat; Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. You and I have been to a few meetings together as missionaries. Download Media, I am pleased to be part of this important symposium sponsored by BYU and the Church History Department. I love every episode I’ve listened to so far. Subject to some general limitations discussed later in this article, the following types of uses are usually deemed fair uses: Your email address will not be published. There is no place for them amongst us or anyone that supports their abusive & vulgar behavior & treatment of others..THEY MAKE ME SICK! background-color: rgba(0,0,0,0.5); RFM is hitting his stride as a podcaster. Two months to produce a work running over six hundred pages and of such complexity and density. It was wrapped with a paper band sealed with paste and apparently never opened. The rest, including the acquittal of the nine individuals by an overly-biased jury, is, as we say, a matter of history. Now, onto the purpose of this email – as a member of the Bar, I thought it would be useful to read a manual on what I do everyday, so I found a short book titled “On Bullshit” by Harry G. Frankfurt, a renowned philosophy from Princeton. In those efforts, we first learned why Joseph Smith was never discharged in bankruptcy. I’m trans so some of the activities I’ve described doing in the Mormon church, such as getting an Eagle Scout or participating in Priesthood sessions don’t match up with my gender. : 001: What in Hell is Going on at FairMormon?! I repeat each all night long until you publish the next. But really, investigators have little idea what they are signing up for even after they have heard all the lessons. He talked about how things were getting worse for people. It seems we both grew up at a time when the Mormon church was at least trying to show that its beliefs were based on good reasons. The Prophet Joseph Smith’s Bankruptcy and Property at Death. He was fourteen at the time of the First Vision, twenty-one when he received the golden plates, and just twenty-three when he finished translating the Book of Mormon (in less than 75 working days). I always love your General Conference break down – and would love to team up with you if you want to do a recap together. 2. As a result, Emma Smith Bidamon received $1,809, and the United States government received $7,870. If you don’t have it…who does?? I feel like I know you so well that you should at least know a little about me and my journey. From Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Archive for the ‘Recovery from Mormonism’ Category Failing Godhood Posted: November 8, 2020 in Michael Flournoy, Mormon Studies, Recovery from Mormonism, Theology. This is information that no police agency, acting on its own, would normally try to hide. Under Illinois law, his property would therefore be divided, after payment of creditors, among his widow and children. With that clarification, we searched again in the Church records and finally located George Watt’s official and highly authentic set of minutes on the trial testimony. For the past summer I had been lost and confused. 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