Amanda Foo, Propulsion Manager, Lockheed Martin: My biggest obstacle was overcoming the expectation that hard work equals rewards and recognition . Dearth of Quality Counseling. I've worked in the Oil&Gas industry, as a consultant (ie: design). But the one I like the best (but never hear) is "free agency". Coping with rejection. No misleading or sensationalized titles. Abigail Kuchan, Lockheed Martin Engineer: One major challenge was learning how to cope with rejection — not being selected for a job or having my ideas turned down — while continuing to put my best foot forward. Rendered by PID 17924 on r2-app-0680ee50d9cf24828 at 2020-12-14 14:30:29.548285+00:00 running 85e58d4 country code: FR. What challenges have you come across that should be on the list? You can be ridiculously good at something, but not enjoy doing it :), [–]mooman413 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children), [–]Fayettenamese -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children). Then it started to change.  7. (Image via Engineering Career Planning) So if you’re getting ready to embark on your engineering education or career, these challenges shouldn’t scare you off too much. What made me fall in love with computers and being an engineer was the ability to be both artistic and scientific at the same time. Con: Hazardous Work Environments At the end of the day your job is Mr. Professional Engineer and the scope of work that falls within that. I had a grand vision that didn't pan out. I don't know. The phrases, buzz words and acronyms are endless. Can anyone recommend an anti-backflow mechanism for air? Absolutely true. Due to their ignorancy in schedule, they had to fabricate it local in 1st world country, tripling the cost of fabrication. Believes usability is a four-letter word. While it is usually easy to leave an engineering major to go into something else, it's almost impossible to move from a non-engineering major and transfer to an engineering one. Hopefully I won’t bore you. It's pretty ironic that I just stumbled onto this post. The sacrifice you make with regards to time worked is earning the money necessary to provide a solid life for your children. The only reward it seems, is good pay. I didn't like it before, but I finally realized I hated it and didn't want that as my career. You see I spent a good amount of time in college, a regular Van Wilder. Typical EE job, testing the circuit board for faults. Keep the discussion civil. What about you? What about you. If you don't have the right mindset, all the small stuff will annoying the fuck out of you. Software development is an art and a science, and you literally build machineries without getting your hands dirty. r/engineering's Weekly Career Discussion Thread [14 December 2020], Analyzing the video footage of collapse of the arecibo telescope, robot that tazes you when you procrastinate. Haters gonna hate... Greed is ingrained in our society, better to accept this and try to leave a positive impression on as many people as you can than to let it consume what little time you have on this earth. Also, it can be hard for them to separate work life from their actual life, especially if the job requires them to … Engineering is always changing and one has to keep fresh skills. Maybe the job is great, the people are great, but the work is incredibly repetitive and boring. But the one I like the best (but never hear) is "free agency". Pay The median annual wage for architectural and engineering managers was $144,830 in May 2019. I thought it would be a little more like engineering school. Racism, sexism, or any other form of bigotry will not be tolerated. This is how exactly I feel like after about 7-8 years in the industry. David Brady, Professor, Imaging and Spectroscopy, Duke University: I have always had to work to keep learning new things. And on top of that, if you were a really good engineer you could become a supervisor and maybe even a manager (back then a "manager" title was a big deal, not so much today). Common jobs include helping engineers resolve problems or complete projects or working in quality control for production companies. And sometimes you encounter problems that are really tough to solve. Problems with your work can hurt your employer’s reputation or your own. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 17924 on r2-app-0680ee50d9cf24828 at 2020-12-14 14:30:29.548285+00:00 running 85e58d4 country code: FR. DO NOT DO IT. Stuff like "teamwork", "carry the ball", "let's huddle" ... blah, blah, blah. Bad news: Engineers are human and the engineering world has all the competition, brilliant asshole, control freak, egotistical legal department . Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Simply defined, a connected car has internet access and can share data with devices inside and outside the vehicle. This is my unique nature and understanding that helps me see my personal triumphs and satisfaction in the work I do every single day, tiny or grand. [–]pridelicious[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). I know it happens, even our big corporate HR did it. I have worked for decades in the electronic circuit design field. You mentioned something about satisfaction. There are tons of different sectors in the engineering industry, which gives students a lot of options when choosing a career path. You too have to find your core reasons for being in the career that you are and how and why you should enjoy it. It wasn't easy work, there were technical challenges along with deadlines, cost issues, etc. My satisfaction will always be in the problem solving and not the end result. For example, I find problem solving hugely gratifying. I believe that a drawback of being an aerospace engineer is that the locations where you can find a job in the space industry is limited. It doesn't have direct impact on the society I live in, There is little other than 'function' and ' budget' involved in 'efficient' design. as anywhere else. For example in Europe are just a few hubs with a lot of activity, mostly near offices of ESA. Best of luck. Let others run around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming the sky is falling for every tiny hickup. The interview was by far the hardest I ever took, unfortunately. Due to the nature of the job, electrical engineers risk personal injury. I studied software packages on the side that were high demand skills with low supply locally. I do believe that there will always be an aspect of engineering which will caters to a particular persons interest, you just have to know where to look! I mean, that's what we were there to learn, how to do the job? Thank you. My career development in engineering has always been focused on higher salary. Interestingly as a manufacturing engineer, about 80% of my career is pretty much been design engineering/product development. The gene pool that is your social life will not have a lot of diversity. [–]Ospif1 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children). A civil engineer created the slippery part of the water slide? Author Scott Adams once said, “Engineers like to solve problems. [–]c8nice 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children). As for job satisfaction...well can't say much on that lol, it's hard to feel like you are contributing something to society when there is so much shit happening throughout the world and so many people risking their lives that no matter what you do it will never compare. This particular project I'm on, the steelworks quotation came down to $2M total. [–]mvw2The Wizard of Winging It 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children). Aerospace is the type of job there working on but there are more than 5 different types of engineers … 1. Still, you may just be biding your time and shoving a large percentage into investments. There are a lot of costs and risks involved in the job. 8. Every career path presents challenges. The detail work was still there and is still used, but it wasn't the only thing. College students may not have a sense for how to build their resume … [–]auxym 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children). What you should do is find the small things that you cherish and let those things be your reward. If you tough out the classwork and get your degree, then you'll get a good job with a big company and be set for life. The scope of issues that an architect is accountable for on a project is tremendous. The life of a field engineer is not an easy one. Civil engineers have created beautiful structures and roads that help countries become safe and strong. I seem to be okay in it as I have not been made redundant even through the gfc and recent bad times; and these weren't really through 'connections' as I really suck at 'sucking up' to the 'right' people. Crowdfunding: Must be relevant to engineering and submitted as a self-post (not a link). No questions on "how something works" — try r/AskEngineers. Most of them were electrical and electronics engineers (320,610), mechanical engineers (303,440), civil engineers (306,030), and industrial engineers (305,780). Engineering is always changing and one has to keep fresh skills. Being an engineer is an amazing feeling, simply because you get the joys of making and designing things that have never been made before. Hey, it's just my opinion but with scars to prove it. If you're happy with a cellphone strapped to your head 24/7 on-call (like I was), fine. Overly insulting or crass comments will be removed. Interesting post. Then there's motor racing, "we need a new intake system racing in a month", no paperwork, no bureaucracy, you just design, test, analyse and repeat in the shortest time possible and I absolutely love it. Every company is different and the culture and coworkers are quite varied. [–]riverdog56 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children). [–]pridelicious[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). Job transitions Phil Cheng, Systems Engineer, Lockheed Martin: Transition means having to adapt to new people, learning new skills and possibly a change in work location. Pay for engineering techs varies greatly by industry and occupation. Be substantive. Architecture is a very challenging and demanding field. There is greed everywhere. At the end of the day you have to decide why it is you're in your career. So to find my work life balance, I earn less and I "live small". Here are some of the biggest challenges engineers have encountered in the course of their careers. There is no guarantee that something else will be any better or even exclude many of the things that annoy you with your current job. But the work culture not so much. There's also a HUGE difference from your design in the office to what is really out in the field. I've always been passionate artsy / creative type and I just happened to be better at logic and mathematics, so it kinda fights each other. My advice is to be as clear as possible in communicating. And most of my peers hate it. I find the work overall, very tiring, very political and for all, very little reward other than pay. So what about all the political crap, coworker incompetence, dumb bosses, bad decisions, poor processes, and ALL the other stuff that runs rampant in most companies...well...you learn to roll with them and not let them bother you so much. A civil engineer designed a pumping … Well said sir. That being said, it’s important to listen to your peers and get along — they often have something very useful to say and want to work with you. I also really disliked being shoe-horned into a very specific field. The Association of Environmental Engineering and Science Professors (AEESP) made an initial effort to count environmental engineers in 20041. It almost never happens. Moving into the course load more I find myself really hating the busy work, the pure calculation of it all. You should also know that engineering majors have the reputation for being very demanding, sometimes taking five years to complete. I know there's a massive image of money in the O&G sector. I wish I would have thought this way 10-15 years ago. I HATED the first, the paperwork (FMEA's, Gauge R&R's and capability studies) and I spent a lot more time working on those than designing anything. Tell us below. It should be somewhat similar, right? I have encountered a few engineers that were unhappy with their particular job, but I don't think anybody was unhappy with engineering in general. I love engineering (electrical, electronic) and I love the technical challenges. [–]big_dealGas Turbine Engineer 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children). They are occasionally required to work irregular hours and long days that can result in stress. Another guard had an earlier job at McDonnel Douglas (I think). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: If you see any post or comment that violates these rules, please report it so the moderators can respond in a timely manner. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Since engineers were paid well, you'd obviously be happy. Adjusting can be a challenge, but it gives the engineer a chance to learn about an area they might never have known about and to develop new mentors. He bends over, picks up the frog, and puts it in his pocket. Maybe you just want to experience new things. She does admit that several of her colleagues in engineering school felt they were treated differently because they were women, though. There is no job satisfaction rewards - Yeah, I get to see what I design, being built and being installed, been there done that and what? That study sought to determine if demographic information for environmental engineers, including students, faculty, and practitioners exists, if it is accurately collected, and if it is effectively reported. Engineering Humor "A scientist can discover a new star, but he cannot make one. But I can’t strongly assert enough that potential engineers entering college really study their potential industry, the trade offs of being an engineer (good pay and benefits, fascinating work and problems, bad job security in some fields, and definitely bad environments for your health overall). What Is a Bad Thing About Being a Mechanic?. You do however get paid well. For me I just want to be designing new parts as often as possible and keep it fresh with new challenges and ideas and for that motor racing is perfect for my desires. The pay isn't as good and the hours can be ridiculous, particularly on race weekend, but for me my work and life are the same thing, so it's suitable. That's the necessity for modern day products though and the reason why what we buy is quality and not rubbish because these procedures are critical to the integrity of the product, however it can really become extremely tedious if your role encompasses that entire process. — Gordon L. Glegg, British Engineer, 1969. So within the corporate quagmire, where does that leave engineering? Worst things-Pay isn't as great as some other types of engineering, but that comes with the fact that our industry as a whole is more stable.-it can get stressful if you want to achieve your goals quickly. I would've quit if it didn't pay 3x average salary, but it looks like there's a point where pay is just not worth it. [–]Mordoc0881 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). Thomas Edison did poorly in his math classes in school, but went on to patent over 1000 inventions. I've been a civil engineer for 9 years now, and I despise it. I enjoy coming up with cleaver solutions, unique solutions, solutions that I know virtually no one else would have ever thought of. Now, there should be a general interest to improve your work environment by improving processes, acquiring new information, and doing small projects that improve and ease your work experience. You can't change the past, but present and future decisions are yours to make. r/engineering is a forum for engineering professionals to share information, knowledge, experience related to the principles & practices of all types of engineering: civil, structural, mechanical, electrical, aerospace, chemical, computer, environmental, etc. Although they can be mitigated by proper safety measures and workplace equipment, there are some health risks associated with biomedical engineering, particularly for those employed in non-laboratory research capacities. Interestingly, MDA is the only place I know right now that has unionized engineers. It's still kind of a crap shoot. I've tried both big and small engineering companies, and general feeling towards engineering have not changed. I have been at about 7 companies in various industries. Of course there's effort and risk involved when changing companies. But it took its toll on me. The Disadvantages of Being an Engineering Technician. Engineering in the classroom is very different from engineering at work. Some in … 2. Absolutely no aesthetics, or cool philosophies behind it. Ever thought you could suffer heat stroke and frost bite at the same time? Assistant electrical engineer at work. The pay isn't anywhere near as good however. Well, I've done shit jobs before, heavy manual labor in extreme environments, jobs that wreck the body for life. That is a worthy endeavor in and of itself! Maybe the job is amazing but the nature of the industry is chaotic and layoffs are common. What that is? In addition, it’s common for employers to offer a benefits package that includes health insurance, paid time off, and retirement plans. U.S. Navy plan calls for 82 new ships, at $147B, by 2026. Of course, we get annoyed by beurocracy and management at times. Typical EE job, testing the circuit board for faults. Now they're trying to scrutinize all the steel design, trying to make up for $1.8M gap at the same time, blaming the 'expensive' design. I really, REALLY didn't want to be a machine just crunching numbers. Plus there was less emphasis on pure number crunching and more on abstract thought, problem solving, and working on larger systems. They didn't like it but they did it. Look into this bruh. Completed projects, destructive test results, and unique machinery and hardware are all acceptable and encouraged. The beings of an aerospace engineer Aerospace engineer has more than just one thing to do during its job, this means that there are a lot of good things about this job and just a few bad things. Love my job. Civil engineers may end up working at some remote and hostile areas. 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children), [–]pridelicious[S] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child). One personal story: During the cold war I had a summer job as a security guard. Learn about educational requirements and how to get into a college engineering program. Hello, this may come as a whine post, but this may also serve a purpose for those who still study it, and it'd also be interesting to hear why people love/hate their career in engineering. What is satisfying or gratifying for you? Architectural and engineering managers typically need at least a bachelor’s degree and considerable work experience as an architect or engineer. Martin Brooke, Associate Professor, Duke University Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering: Outsourcing of engineering work overseas and the need for continuous education have radically changed what engineers in the USA do. Able to sign with another team, maybe get a signing bonus and even negotiate extra vacation days. Cons of Mechanical Engineers. It's something I enjoy, so there was a lot of attraction there. NOTE: Asking for help on homework will result in an instant ban. 1 An Electrical Engineer And Talking Frog. Risky Occupation. In engineering, what matters more than love of math is being a person that wants to understand how things work, likes to take things apart, and likes to put things together to make the world a better place. If it's late, costs too much, doesn't meet customer expectations or anything else that could go wrong ... we're left holding the bag. Have you thought of commissioning into the armed service? Never be out of a job No low-effort one-liner comments, memes, or off-topic replies. That's personal. Well... unless you're talking about getting creative to reduce cost I guess... [–]mvw2The Wizard of Winging It 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children). I assume you mean crazy vs. angry, although I'm a little of both. Now it isn't just what I've experienced. 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